Finnish Parliament passes patient safety bill

http://newsroom.finland.fi/stt/showarticle.asp?intNWSAID=17319&group=Politics

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The will enable the government to force some of the thousands of nurses belonging to the Union of Health and Social Care Professionals (Tehy) who have signed up to a mass resignation campaign to stay in their posts.

A minister had said in Parliament on Thursday that nurses who defied orders to work might be prosecuted under the law.

They will force them to work on these posts! Where is freedom, ohh where? Instead to reform inefficient health care, below mentioned enemies of freedom prefer to broke personal freedom of those people.

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An opposing motion submitted by the Social Democratic party was voted down by MPs for the ruling Centre party, National Coalition party, the Green League and the Swedish People's party.

All socialist totalitarians on the board as usual. Does Finland have any rightwing party in parliament? (I dont consider National Socialist to be rightwing, socialism is socialism)

Rzeczpospolita wrote:

All socialist totalitarians on the board as usual. Does Finland have any rightwing party in parliament? (I dont consider National Socialist to be rightwing, socialism is socialism)

Depends what rightwing means. Liberal? Not really. Conservative? Yes (christian democrats). The national coalition party is thought to be "the rightwing party", but it's hard to find any real difference between objectives of the three biggest (Coalition, Social-democrats, Centre).
We don't have National Socialist party in parliament (thank god)

Communist Gipsy wrote:

Depends what rightwing means. Liberal? Not really.

Conservative morally and economically liberal. Must be against the EU, because neither real conservative (because nihilist character of the EU) or true liberal (because the EU is nothing else but huge socialist bureaucracy) could support this pathetic organization.

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Conservative? Yes (christian democrats).

I dislike Christian Democrats even more that I dislike all those openly socialist totalitarians. Those politicians are neither Christian or democrats (like the socialist of course). Their name Christian Democrats I would replace by two shorter words, "Ugly Farce". This name better reflect their nature.

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The national coalition party is thought to be "the rightwing party", but it's hard to find any real difference between objectives of the three biggest (Coalition, Social-democrats, Centre).

This is why we have democracy, to chose between the same. If I would ignore historical origin of Polish political parties and pre-election propaganda then indeed they are almost the same. This is true probably elsewhere.

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We don't have National Socialist party in parliament (thank god)

One more leftist party or one less who cares?

Rzeczpospolita wrote:

Communist Gipsy wrote:

Depends what rightwing means. Liberal? Not really.

Conservative morally and economically liberal. Must be against the EU, because neither real conservative (because nihilist character of the EU) or true liberal (because the EU is nothing else but huge socialist bureaucracy) could support this pathetic organization.

I think closest to that is the newly founded islamic party, which is atleast conservative and probably economically liberal too. Atleast many arab countries are eco. liberal, right? But maybe that's not what you meant? Well those islamists don't have any MPs anyway, atleast not yet.

Rzeczpospolita wrote:

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The national coalition party is thought to be "the rightwing party", but it's hard to find any real difference between objectives of the three biggest (Coalition, Social-democrats, Centre).

This is why we have democracy, to chose between the same. If I would ignore historical origin of Polish political parties and pre-election propaganda then indeed they are almost the same. This is true probably elsewhere.

Well if you could influence by voting, it'd already be illegal. "You're free to vote as we tell you to vote"

Rzeczpospolita wrote:

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We don't have National Socialist party in parliament (thank god)

One more leftist party or one less who cares?

Well, these guys have applied for parliament many times without success https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCwFp-oH-QM&feature=related
(the video is in Finnish, but you get the point by looking at their outfit) Some euro leftists in parliament is much better option that those guys in my opinion

Communist Gipsy wrote:

I think closest to that is the newly founded islamic party, which is atleast conservative and probably economically liberal too. Atleast many arab countries are eco. liberal, right? But maybe that's not what you meant? Well those islamists don't have any MPs anyway, atleast not yet.

Nope. Islamic party belong to Arabic civilization and their conservatism even if in some places similar to Christian is very different. For sure if use this word they define it differently. Islamic parties has strong theocratic tendencies while at least Catholic church clearly separate religion from the state.

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Well, these guys have applied for parliament many times without success https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCwFp-oH-QM&feature=related
(the video is in Finnish, but you get the point by looking at their outfit) Some euro leftists in parliament is much better option that those guys in my opinion

How I see this is that both want to impose socialism while I strongly dislike socialism. Both are Machiavellian and want to realize their goal no matter what. Despite that asked they always deny this but their tradition and mine constant observations of political events tell me that they will use force if necessary. Video was quite funny

i was shocked also

prime minister only said that there might be "life threatening situation".

they passed this unordinary law which makes possible to force (some of) these people do their job. it is not wartime, and you can always buy these services from private companies, i think. and not every flu is life threatening..

some nurses were crying and saying something like: "dont they respect our job" and so on. some actually cancelled their "work licenses/permits" (or at least asked about it) . only those persons with work licenses can be obligated to these healthcare jobs, and you get the permit by education/medical degree but you can cancel your permit voluntarily.

but finally they got their salary rise!

hmm maybe we really need this law.. strike of the nurses is really bad thing. dunno. the problem is that how they should fight for their salary increases if they (worker's union) cannot have (real) threat of strikes??

Rzeczpospolita wrote:

All socialist totalitarians on the board as usual. Does Finland have any rightwing party in parliament? (I dont consider National Socialist to be rightwing, socialism is socialism)

Conservatives and some smaller parties. yes it is right-centric government now in power.

in the parliament, we have all kind of parties. also left wing parties.

i dont know is the social democratic party anymore leftist... i really do not know. they are claiming to be but they act like right wing party many times i think...