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Communist Gipsy
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Voodoo

Voodoo


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PostSubject: But relations   But relations EmptyThu May 17, 2007 2:43 am

Estonians have good relations all over world.
Finnish, Latvians and Lithuanians are our friends.

What about Russians in Estonia and Russians in Russia...?
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Risto

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Localisation : Estonia
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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptyThu May 17, 2007 8:36 am

Kaspar wrote:
Estonians have good relations all over world.
Finnish, Latvians and Lithuanians are our friends.

What about Russians in Estonia and Russians in Russia...?

Do explain. Shocked
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Voodoo

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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptyThu May 17, 2007 6:54 pm

Im asking what forum members think of estonians relations to local russians and russians in Russia...?
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Vabapaase




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Localisation : Estonia
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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptyThu May 17, 2007 9:37 pm

I still havent met any normal russians so far. Have you seen news how they destroy Tallinn? thats only one tiny little prove of it.
Men with always, women coats...
Screaming that Estonia is fašist country, but neo-nazis in Russia killed a little girl for an example.
So i think that there maybe few normal Russians somewhere hidden, but I just havent got the chance to meet one.
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Hypno


Number of posts : 192
Age : 34
Localisation : Kuressaare, Estonia
Registration date : 2007-05-15

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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptyThu May 17, 2007 10:17 pm

I have met a few normal Russians (I live in the westernmost city here so not really many Russians here Razz ). So there are some out there Smile But a big deal of them are morons who think they should rule the earth...
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Helena

Helena


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Localisation : Eesti/Estonia, Tallinn
Registration date : 2007-05-17

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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptyFri May 18, 2007 1:26 am

I also have some really fine Russian friends who don't complain that they must learn Estonian language and live under really bad government Rolling Eyes So I respect it and try to learn a bit Russian myself, too.

In Tallinn live ~200000 Russians and in the streets there were max. 2000-3000 and just about 500 of them were actually vandalizing. So we can't say all Russians are bad, can we.
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Krissukristel

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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptyFri May 18, 2007 3:34 am

I dont know
I was a bit worried over the fact that not one russian politician in estonia condemd vandalizing. all they did were trieng to find excuses. which made me sick.
for a few days I really thought all russians have gone mad. I saw one neighbour, young russian girl, who after first night said she is so ashamed over what happend. and little later when I unexpectedly brought my eyes on her I saw her looking at me with pure hate in her eyes.

But then normal reports started coming in this way from russia. So I understood there are normal regular russians out there somewhere.
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LPF




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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptyFri May 18, 2007 4:46 pm

Vabapaase wrote:
but neo-nazis in Russia killed a little girl for an example.

little offtopic, but i heard that the killers of the girl got minimum punishment.
the killer got 1 or 2 years in prison and other accomplicers got a few months confused
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Earthland




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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptyFri May 18, 2007 5:54 pm

Vabapaase wrote:
I still havent met any normal russians so far. Have you seen news how they destroy Tallinn? thats only one tiny little prove of it.
Men with always, women coats...
Screaming that Estonia is fašist country, but neo-nazis in Russia killed a little girl for an example.
So i think that there maybe few normal Russians somewhere hidden, but I just havent got the chance to meet one.

Russians are the most friendly people I know No . It's the problem- we notice only these in Tõnismäe and Moscow, front of Estonian embassy. Did you know that common Russians called to the embassy to support Estonia?

I can't only accept the Tõnismäe-Russians, like I call them.
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Voodoo

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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptyWed May 23, 2007 9:17 am

Well government relocated according to Estonian and international law. All knew it long time that government plans to relocate it. Monument is property of Tallinn city not Russia and Estonia has right to relocate graves and monuments. They did set pulic date 2 weeks or something but had to move it faster becouse riot. Sending it to Russia wouldnt solve the problem becouse Russia point was that we wouldnt toch it at all and same goes to russians in Estonia.
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Risto

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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptyWed May 23, 2007 9:22 am

Estonian government even sent a request for the Russians to send a observer here for the dismantling process. The Russian government refused of course. silent
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Kiskun

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Localisation : Hungary, Kecskemét
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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptyThu May 24, 2007 1:19 am

I didn't want to open a new topic as I don't think it would be so popular so I simply ask it here:
Estonian and Hungarian are both Finno-Ugrian languages. I know Finnish is so evident for Estonians to consider as relatives, but do you consider Hungarians too as relatives in any way?
Because when we recognize that everybody has somebody but we then it s*cks so much Crying or Very sad
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Gytaz




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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptySat May 26, 2007 2:22 am

Vabapaase wrote:

Screaming that Estonia is fašist country, but neo-nazis in Russia killed a little girl for an example.

It is strange to hear Russians calling someone else fascists after wathing videos like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J6A-tlHENU
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Earthland




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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptySat May 26, 2007 10:01 pm

These are sick people, but I remember you that only 5% of Russians are such idiots :/ . Others are embarrased of those, I think. In "singing revolution" times Russian supported Estonia and other countries that wanted to become independent.
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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptySat May 26, 2007 11:36 pm

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Kiskun

Kiskun


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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptyWed Jul 11, 2007 5:06 pm

Event: I am travelling abroad for one week. Good foruming till then!
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Helena

Helena


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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptyWed Jul 11, 2007 9:35 pm

Have a nice trip Very Happy If you come back, tell us how it was Smile
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Kiskun

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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptyFri Jul 20, 2007 3:29 pm

I arrived home! I saw a great part of Germany, was in Luxembourg and a smaller part of Belgium and Holland and looked around in Salzburg, Austria with my family. Man! It was fantastical! We looked historical sites mostly, buildings,the houseses where Mozart and Beethoven was born.
I like Hungary, but to be honest with ourselves, in Hungary we are happy and proud if we have one of those buildings in a city which every German smaller town has in packs, with whole streets.
And I also must tell that we are not 10-15 but at least 30 years behind those countries in developement No
Soc-real buildings were stopped to be built there in the 60's so their significancy is neglectable there, while here...I don't have to explain for you I guess.
There are bike-roads everywhere, in Holland 25cm on the side of the roads are for the bikes only, with a unique kind of painting. In villages as well!
Every square metre is watered, there are flowers in every spot and corner in the middle of nowhere too. Every building is freshly painted, there were no parts where I would have found one-floored houses, two and three storey family houses are predominant in Germany, Austria and Luxembourg too.
People are much more polite, relaxed. When we did something crossing the rules, everybody was watching us.
What is even more fascinating is that all of these are true for the places which are behind God's back in a forest in a mountain range too.
When we arrived back and saw the streets in Mosonmagyaróvár, beside the border, it was very depressing... Sad
Anyway, it was a fantastical experience.
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Communist Gipsy




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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptyFri Jul 20, 2007 11:01 pm

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NowhereMan

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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptyFri Jul 20, 2007 11:43 pm

Quote :
London is nothing compared to Berlin in my opinion....

London is very expensive... but I still love it
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Kiskun

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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptySat Jul 21, 2007 12:24 pm

"Quite cheap" LOL!!!
You could never deny that you are from the WEST Very Happy

Just you know if you leave the capital, Budapest, you won't find so many historical buildings, while in Germany they are indeed in every smaller village, and they were also bombed until the yellow earth...
Holland is known for it's bycling culture...In Hungary we don't build bike roads, because we don't like biking? Very Happy Yeah, and we love small flats, that is why the majority lives in panel-houses Very Happy Of course the latter ones were built in the city-center too, because Hungarians prefer them to historical buildings
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Communist Gipsy




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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptySat Jul 21, 2007 5:01 pm

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Helena

Helena


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PostSubject: Re: But relations   But relations EmptySat Jul 21, 2007 10:52 pm

In Estonia it's usually preferred not to use those so-called bike roads (about 50 cm area in the edge of some bigger roads) because they are really dangerous. I'm looking forward to the day when they are going to build some normal ones.
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